Remaining without thoughts in the waking state does not lead to Atmic awareness.+

Remaining without thoughts in the waking is not wisdom. The thinker and the thought and the world the thinker exists in are within the waking experience, but the waking experience itself is an illusion.

The thoughts and the thinker and the world in which the thinker exists have nothing to do with the invisible Soul, the Self.

Thoughtlessness is not wisdom.

In deep sleep, there is thoughtlessness, but deep sleep is the state of ignorance. The thoughts come to the thinker.

The thoughts and thinker and the world are a reality within the waking experience, but from the ultimate standpoint, the waking experience is merely an illusion. Therefore, the individual experiences within the waking experience are part of the illusion.

Thus, the thoughts and the thinker belong to the individual and are part of the illusion.

The thoughts will not rise without the form, time, and space, whereas the Self is the invisible Soul, a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

The thought and the thinker and the world the thinker exists in are created out of a single clay, that single clay is the invisible Soul, the Self.

The knowledge of the single clay is Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana.

Thus, Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana is necessary to know what is what. ~Santthosh Kumaar