The birth, life, death, and the world are part of the waking experience, but the waking experience is merely an illusion.+

The orthodox people are unaware of the fact that their individual experience of the birth, life, death, and the world, and their belief in personal Gods and ritualistic religious doctrine, are part of the dualistic illusion.

The Buddha must have verified religion, the Vedas, and the concept of God and found them inadequate and useless in the pursuit of truth, and rejected them, and he got enlightened without the aid of religion, the Vedas, and the concept of God.

After studying and going through all the rigorous training from the religious scholars in the Theosophical Society, J. Krishnamurti was confused about all these, and when he started verifying with deeper introspection, he found everything was priest-crafted hotchpotch ideologies. Thus, he refused to become the world Guru, rejected it, and walked out and condemned the priest craft.

The orthodox Advaitins accept the karma theory. If they accept the karma theory, one will not be able to reach the nondual destination. If one accepts the karma theory, then it is impossible to treat the world as an illusion. All the pundits’ explanation of the karma theory carries no weight in the realm of truth because if karma is accepted, they are accepting the false self (ego or body) as the true Self and false experience (universe or the waking) as a reality.

Birth, life, and death are part of the waking experience, but the waking experience is merely an illusion from the standpoint of the invisible Soul, the Self.

It is no use saying that we are not born, we do not die, because we're all born and we all are going to die. However, birth, life, and death are part of the illusion, which comes and goes as the waking experience.

The formless witness of the three states is real, which is the eternal identity that has no birth and death. That is why Self-knowledge has nothing to do with the religion-based Advaita. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar